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The 'Fujitsu' that made the shitty software was a British consulting company that was acquired by Fujitsu [1] to farm public contracts. This is made by the Japanese parent company.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Computers_Limite...


It's seriously underselling ICL to call it a consulting company, though by the time of the Fujitsu acquisition that might be accurate.

You're right, but the scandal is so upsetting that I personally cannot ever look at Fujitsu the same way even. Also, I think you're neglecting that a large part of why it became so bad was that Fujitsu claimed there was no issue with their software. Even if it were built by a company they acquired, the response to the developing situation was something that the parent company should have stepped in to oversee.

Not trying to be obnoxious, but it's still Fujitsu.

In a very specific legal sense, it isn't, we are talking about two entirely separate legal entities (and ultimately groups of people) which have a relation of ownership, not directorship.

It is ultimately Fujitsu responsibility.

XP is Microsoft's prettiest OS by far.

That's a matter of taste, but for many it was the Windows they used first and/or spend the most time on and there's a lot of love for that reason alone. I never used XP all that much, but I always changed the theme to the Windows 2000 look. I really didn't like the default, it looked unprofessional and clunky in my eyes. Upon release XP was also pretty universally mocked as a Fisher Price-like UI.

To me Windows 95/NT 4 is still the gold standard in Windows UI. It's certainly not the prettiest, that would be Windows 2000, but it was easy to use, easy to navigate and efficient with space.


Of course that's a matter of taste but Luna interface/theme made whole XP being more appealing to ordinary people - especially with these task-oriented elements. On the other hand, "classic" widgets had that strong bare-bone technical and functional look that made whole system scarier to some degree.

I had tons of "Visual Styles" back then and in the last XP days I opted for grayish Royal or Royale. It's such shame that MS has abandoned Watercolor theme - that was a middle ground: interface was updated and yet, still similar to classic design. And it was even in some elements flat before that style become a dominant. Luckily we're slowly moving away from that and I won't be missing it.


win2k was peak for me. lean, functional, just a pinch of glitter here and there (short fade-ins). it was on par with the amazing stability brought by nt5 kernel.

i kinda miss xp at a cultural level since it was a bit the end of that computing culture cycle (after that apple started to dominate and ubuiquitous computing influenced desktop ui)


"after that apple started to dominate"

When did Apple dominate? I'm not trying to hate on Apple here, but there's this weird belief that Apple have had a lead in personal computer OS market share at some point in the last few decades, and it isn't really true since about 1984.

You can argue that they should dominate, but that doesn't seem to have happened.


The mac os x and iphone era dictated UI and UX for a while. I wasn't clear that I wasn't talking about market share.

Maybe they mean culturally.

I remember Apple products being the realm of graphics designers, videographers, and other art professionals back in the XP days. I thought they went mainstream later, as Windows Vista coincided with the iPhone release.

The first Windows I used was 98, and I sure didn't miss the blocky grey menus nor the pixelated icons. Maybe it was Fisher Price-ish but the new rounded buttons and borders were way more appealing to me.

Took me years to like Windows XP. Hated the new start menu. I always kept installing Windows 2000 (or ME, probably because it could use Windows 98 drivers but look like Windows 2000).

I eventually got used to it and ended up liking it.


I always ran it with the 2000 style theme. That said XP offered me nothing over 2000 so 2000 is what I ran on my main machine since it used less ram but did all the same things, often a bit faster.

For awhile I ran XP 64-bit though, that did do one thing 2000 couldn't do.


It was at this moment I realized that people are talking about liking the non-classic-look XP. I always immediately put things in classic look, no grouped windows, etc.

IIRC correctly, XP’s stability greatly increased after Service Pack 2 was published.

XP Service Pack 2 was in essence a different OS.

The "Windows Classic" look on XP is exceptionally ugly, because those 3D-rendered icons just do not belong on a Windows 2000-style grey background for menus or buttons. (I have recently had to test both these OSes in VMs…)

That is true, it looked completely off, as if no one really bothered to tests it and make it look nice. It got rid of the horrible window decoration of the default theme, but the start menu looked terrible.

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20040331-00/?p=39...

>During the Luna studies, that people’s reaction to Luna was often, “Wow this would be a great UI for X,” where X was “my dad” or “my employees” or “my daughter”. People didn’t look at it as the UI for themselves; rather, they thought it was a great UI for somebody else.

(Luna is the name of the default look of Windows XP)


I found each of 2000, XP, and 7 to be excellent in its own unique way. I'd be happy with any of them. But it also felt exciting to upgrade.

It's all been downhill from there as far as UX goes.


I feel Vista was by far the best. 7 simplified it a bit, but that Start orb and black taskbar on Vista, man, that was glorious.

IMO Aero parts looked phenomenal but older Win32 parts like toolbars etc. didn't fit and looked odd

Perhaps with the Zune theme installed.

I like the installation music :-)

"Welcome to Windows 98" with the church bell and sick bass intro can never be beaten. It's cut short unfortunately.

Ehem... nothing beats the beauty and simplicity of Win 95 :)

Didn't that design appear first in 3.51?

Only if you install the Shell Technology Preview from Microsoft. NT 3.51 came with the classic Win 3.x look and feel as well as Program Manager.

Yea, it was 4.0, oops

You mean 7 ;)

Windows 7 was certainly pretty, but I still think that W2000 was peak Windows UI (and I've been around since Windows 2.0)

Windows 7 fixed Vista a bit, but the Aero windows were never pretty and the non-Aero decorations were painfully obvious a placeholder.

Aero was pretty though.

That’s Vista. And there’s no contest whatsoever. They’ve never been able to again achieve the perfect balance of elegance and functionality that Vista’s UI had.

Its Vista. Like it or hate it. It’s Vista


I don't think the people working on new hardware is the same that the one working on Siri.

It's just marketing.

It's part of their TOS that they can train on users' private chats.

Not if you pay to turn that off. We don't know if Tristan did.

And the paid policy still relies on two unproven conditions: is 'trust me bro' sufficiently strong guarantee against doing this in spite of a setting, and can the hosting organization constrain the models against engaging in this behaviour when instructed to respect that setting. Knowing whether Tristan selected that setting would be informative of what Tristan's intentions are/were, but has no bearing on the other two conditions.

Ads didn't give us Wikipedia. The vast majority of blogs and forums were not for profit. Specialised media outlets were always subscription-based. Large amounts of valuable information like research papers, technical documentation and curated databases were paywalled.

The content that ad-based websites brought was mostly clickbait designed around serving these ads.


An yet here we are, on a giant advertisement.


Its marketing all the way down. ;0)


Amazon is garbage too. It keeps showing the same product that I already bought.


True :-).

Probably more that from an ROI perspective that’s probably the “least worst” vs the best.


Why do you think the "mainstream press" and "A/I" are in the same side? Because I don't see two parties here, but rather governments using the financial system to suppress opposition.


Just tell ChatGPT what changes you want in the next version.


They don't disclose individual salaries but you can check their annual reports [1]. About 1M € among all the developers.

[1] https://www.documentfoundation.org/financials-and-reports/


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