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I will slightly disagree on a small slice: Their harness/instruction makes Opus/Fable so much better to work with.

Honestly, _this_ was their moat more than Composer to me.


If the Opus/Fable harness is superior and it's written using Opus/Fable then it will cease to be a moat. Otherwise the premise for coding using LLMs is essentially untrue.


> Otherwise the premise for coding using LLMs is essentially untrue.

Why? Written by does not mean designed by etc. There's a lot more to it.


Couldn't you just download cursor, not even pay for any account and hook up an Anthropic api key and get that functionality?

I dont know how cursor works. Everytime ive tried to use, its super buggy and has memory leaks that make my very quite PC sound like a jet engine.


Cursor charges the “Cursor Token Rate” for BYOK https://cursor.com/docs/models-and-pricing#cursor-token-rate


No. Its is not for bring your own key.

It is for 3rd party models (which you get double the amount of your sub price as usage).

Of course they wont charge you extra for BYOK. how would they???


They do for Teams and Enterprise plans BYOK:

> On Teams and Enterprise plans, third-party model requests include a Cursor Token Rate of $0.25 per million tokens. This rate applies on top of model API pricing for included usage, on-demand usage, and BYOK usage.

See the link I posted above or also this one: https://cursor.com/help/models-and-usage/token-rate


To be fair, that is what it says on their website.


Who are the peoole using this and why is it worth 60b lol


You can just pirate Adobe's software and their marketcap is 115.88B.


Yeah. There is just one dominant direction when you take into account how it's clearly depicted to the rest of the world, and no direct popular vote for the highest chair.

Oh wait, that's the United States. The difference between red and blue is just that it's more able to do business and bombs come with flowers when dealing with federal governments of the latter.


The real Pareto is the lawyer who was the victim of the Telerj prank call in the 80s. Don't be fooled!


Code and reasoning generated by Opus/Fable via Cursor seems to be quite better than Claude Code's for the same prompt.


Does that mean you’re paying api prices + cursor markup (?), or can you somehow piggyback on your Claude subscription? Fable via the API is really too expensive


I mean, Sam should be more of a ghoul with those creepy sunken eyes. And Dario that guy with hair on the sides.


Sakana is certainly a choice of a name. In portuguese, goes from anything between "scoundrel" to "sleazebag".


That's a name choice...


You start by becoming a Claude Boy [1], then eventually enlist into the Claude Corps

[1] https://blog.cosmos-institute.org/p/the-claude-boys


This is a fair point, alongside the one about the hidden content in the weights.

Exactly why my prime suspect would be the one country with focus on proprietary models, and the one country prone to bombing others, including with nuclear weapons.


Unlike China, the US government doesn't own the models. The models will freely talk about any of those bombings or other atrocities of the US government.


Eh, I'd be more concerned about the Three-Letters and the One country that dropped an A-bomb.


>the One country that dropped an A-bomb.

i'd like to point out that the soviet RDS-3 was an airdropped A-bomb.

I get that you mean 'in anger', but I don't feel that bad being a pedant against a propagandist statement that's also pedantically wrong.


I don't think anyone will ever be confused by the "only country to use the bomb" in this context. Your pedantry is not something to not feel bad about as it does nothing constructive to the conversation


> the One country that dropped an A-bomb

> "only country to use the bomb"

I was confused. Two very different statements but I assume they refer to the US who dropped two A-bombs (Hiroshima and Nagasaki) in anger.


only different if you don't consider "the bomb" the way it is colloquially used. until today, i would have never considered saying "the bomb" would not have been understood as a nuclear weapon whether that was an a-bomb or an h-bomb.


Wait until people discover Zappateers...


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