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Is this big enough to produce a Tsunami? Apparently maybe only a small localised one, but I'm supposed to be getting the ferry from Lombok to Bali shortly and two of those have already burnt down the last 2 weeks!


A ferry in the open ocean is one of the safer places to be during a tsunami. Remember, it's not a surf-style wave, but a gradual increase in water level.


There's an eerie video that went around of a ship hitting the 2011 tsunami in Japan at open sea. It demonstrates the idea pretty well.

https://youtube.com/shorts/igfP5CQAkHU?is=TJqk4lxxhYkK8hQV


Same video with normal controls: https://youtu.be/igfP5CQAkHU

Longer & significantly less edited video from the above's cited source: https://youtu.be/-VcWF8dIDj4. There is a comment with the translations of what's being said that adds a lot of info/meaning. Particularly this was at a relatively shallow depth (38 meters) only a couple miles off the coast, the above ferry would spend most of its time in >200 meter waters according to https://www.arcgis.com/apps/mapviewer/index.html?webmap=019a... so would probably look nothing like this at most points in the trip.


After the tsunami, would the current induced by the water drawback disrupt the ferry ability to come back ? I wonder if the ocean “rise” again (water on top of water) or if it’s more a current-style (water push water) movement.


Extremely. They are quite slow laterally (a couple knots while docking), the lateral currents (which are not constant or unidirectional) reach 2-4x+, throwing them into whatever happens to be in the way.

AFAIK the bigger issue is that the boats are grounded so violently when the water recedes that the hulls get destroyed before they even have a chance.

This tends to be why they put everything they have into getting further out to sea the moment a warning is issued.


boarding the ferry may not be the most pleasant, however.


Indonesia's tsunami bulletins appear to be here:

https://rtsp.bmkg.go.id/publicbull.php

They've declared the event over - some waves were generated but nothing particularly large. Bulletin 3 for the recent quake includes wave height observations - maximum reported was 94cm; most were under 50cm.


Tsunamis are only an issue close to shore. In the ocean it's barely a mild wave.

In a boat going further out is the safest thing you can do if there's a tsunami warning.


Depends on how the tsunami was created. By earthquake or by land slide. For example, the following tsunami no boat is safe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumbre_Vieja_tsunami_hazard


That's a hypothetical "hazard" of a megatsunami and on top of that, seems reaaaally unlikely to happen within the lifetime of any of us:

> Giant landslides are rare events.[117] Humanity has never witnessed enormous collapses on La Palma[59] and there is evidence that the western flank of La Palma is currently stable[65] and a collapse in the near future is unlikely.[133] A worst-case scenario giant landslide like the one modelled by Ward and Day 2001 is a very low probability event, probably much less common than once per 100,000 years[123]

But, never say never, apparently we're ruining the planet faster than anyone of us thought possible just 50 years ago, so who knows what could happen.


One that happened, earthquake triggered rockslide:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1958_Lituya_Bay_earthquake_and...


Safer than going inland..?


There have been 70m tsunamis and lakes get tsunamis too, so… maybe?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tsunamis


I've seen "possible tsunami" pre-warnings, and a sea level gauge at/near Lembar showing sea level oscillations - so I would recommend keeping a close watch on some information source that's better than HN comment threads, yes.


Correct, but also, I’d bet there is a lurking tsunami expert here somewhere. Nothing is ever too niche for HN.


There's a tsunami warning list you can sign up for. As well as global earthquake alerts. In my experience they arrive very quickly

Usually earthquakes on land don't trigger tsunamis but are more damaging locally


I would upgrade the ferry and make sure to get a high quality one given all the swell in the ocean already (most of bali had 6ft+ waves yesterday) and this incident. Not worth the risk.


Lombok will have lots of higher ground at least. You really just have to be careful on and near the beach.


Easily big enough, but how deep it was generated and how the movements happened do impact the risk a lot.


the tsunami risk is negligible compared to the fire risk


Agreed, currently aboard and on high alert, pray for me HN


Let us know you made it ok!


Safe travels, friend.


Interesting times for the ferry indeed


RIP Jon Skeet, stack overflow legend, guy must've spent 100k hours answering C# questions! (He's not dead, but SO is)


Never seen xcancel before, love that!


Didn't work for me, just kept reloading a page verifying my browser.


You can replace xcancel.com by nitter.net, it worked for me.

Like this: https://nitter.net/MaximeRivest/status/2073544461473169432

Both are running the same software but I guess the protection of the sites work differently.


The software it runs is called Nitter. You can also run it on your own server to reduce load on the popular servers and make it harder for Elon to block all copies of Nitter.

(Note the T and G keys are next to each other on QWERTY keyboards - beware typos)


There are browser extensions (eg. Redirect for Firefox) that will automatically replace x.com with xcancel.com.


You want to be using LibRedirect for this. It provides a list of public alternative frontends for a lot of sites (twitter, imgur, reddit, etc.)


You're right, it is called LibRedirect.


Hi Eric, thoughts on capitalism? Call it 'financial gravity' but I think capitalism is the underlying insidious force. Obviously there's nuance but a world ran by companies with shareholders and profit margins isn't going to be a good one, is it?


I do make critiques of capitalism in the book, but I try to be very careful when using that word, since at this point most people can't even agree on what the word means.

Here are some things that seem to me unequivocally true if we look at the historical record and the data available to us: 1. These kind of value-destroying actions in the name of profit have been going on for a very long time, at least 200 years. 2. The problem seems to be getting worse in recent decades. 3. The problem seems to be highly correlated with the increased financialization of our economies and the advent of a relatively recent set of so-called best practices about how companies should be built, run, and governed. 4. Companies seem to vary widely in the degree to which they are vulnerable to these forces. 5. I think to be learned by studying the companies that have been able to resist-- as a collective set


Hey Eric, I have a degree in economics and to me it’s very simple. Look up “creative destruction” and Joseph Schumpeter. Whether someone likes it or not, this pattern is the defining feature of capitalism.

The market is very good at solving certain types of problems and not so good at others.


I think the focus should be more on creating governments that are resistant to those forces. Contrary to popular belief, governments are the greatest force for good in the world, the best ones are the ones that are best at keeping capitalism in check, companies will always be vulnerable.

Unpopular opinion but I'm very much pro-china and anti-us because of this.


> 3. The problem seems to be highly correlated with the increased financialization of our economies and the advent of a relatively recent set of so-called best practices about how companies should be built, run, and governed.

I have the seeds of a theory that might explain this: this is the inevitable outcome of technological progress.

Like the American democratic system, Capitalism works best when all major parties involved in the system have comparable power and can keep the other in check. The major parties here are the capital class and the labor class, because Capitalism was conceptualized in an era when value creation could not happen without human labor. As such there was some measure of power available to workers, the logical extreme of which were such distasteful words like "unions" and "strikes". Nevertheless, earlier there was some balance and everyone benefitted (after that messy little Gilded Age affair was sorted out.)

However, technology, in the form of automation, has essentially been a force of labor displacement. Yes, we got amazing improvements in quality of life, but every advance also chipped away at the influence and power held by workers.

On the other side, the capital class have not been idle. Money attracts money... and power and influence. Capitalists have been using those levers to ensure most of the gains of technology accrue to themselves. Lobbying is of course the most obvious example, influence campaigns is another. But relevant to your post, another way this surfaces is the "so-called best practices" you mentioned. There is no "collusion" to suppress wages, just "best practices" of amorphous origins. Which somehow always benefit the shareholders. Funny that.

As you said this has been going on for a long time. But technology is amongst other things, an accelerant, and these trends have simply been amplified to become more noticeable.

And now there's GenAI, which is the ultimate accelerant.

Contrary to most media and HN, however, I think GenAI is not just the ultimate win for capitalists. If you think about it, by the same token(s) that GenAI disintermediates labor, it also disintermediates capital! (Who needs VCs when 1 - 2 motivated folks can launch ambititious projects with GenAI and public clouds?

GenAI is a unique opportunity to restore balance, and could actually be the thing that ushers in the post-Capitalism age... whatever that looks like.


I wonder how close this disease, and the similar ones in the comments, are to a general 'chronic fatigue sydnrome' diagnosis is. Which I've been dealing with for a decade. Definitely a strong autoimmune component to it...

In case this might resonate with someone but from the 100s of tests i've done, the most significant result for me was a 5x normal renin, which led me to eventually try fludrocortisone, the first time i finally felt 100% relief but only for a couple of days before sliding back into fatigue...

Count yourself incredibly lucky OP that you both got a diagnosis and also have such support around you. It's tough out here


A decade of dealing with CFS sounds like absolute hell.

I saw a close friend decline from a 90%-ile athlete to having trouble getting out of bed within a span of 2 months, and it was heartbreaking. This is someone I looked up to in the gym, went climbing with, went on hikes with. Living in Spain, he did have a hard time getting a proper diagnosis, with doctors eventually settling on ME/CFS. It's been 2 years now and he is slowly on his way back to being functional; went back to his job and he can even do light exercise once a week now.

I am going to ask him if he was prescribed corticosteroids as part of his regime. I do remember during his early tests (I know because I accompanied him) that he did test positive for Mononucleosis antibodies, but he doesn't remember showing any symptoms at that time.


Thanks man, yea I also have mononucleosis antibodies which I think caused it (EBV IgG and IgM) which I think was the trigger for me (Glandular fever). Seems like that virus in particular lingers and reactivates in many people.

My current line of research is into treatment for that, I've tried all the usual antivirals but they don't do much, but there's several new actual vaccines being developed which I'm trying to get into the trials for (in Australia).

Would be keen to know more about his story, thank you


Just sent him this thread!

> Seems like that virus in particular lingers and reactivates in many people.

Scary cuz it spreads from kissing / sharing fluid containers :O


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Ratings per dish instead of just the restaurant as a whole. 4 years in and working on a b2b intelligence offering for restaurants. b2c side has been too hard to get off the ground without solid investment and I've been unable to secure that.

Thoughts welcome :)


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Answering questions like "OK this place is a 4.7 but what's actually good here?" "Where's the best burger in Bali?"


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Just started fundraising for seed round


2 hours everyday trying to find a wife! What does that entail? Do you have some very specific requirements/high standards?


2 hours of daygame. Yes, high standards. I had the perfect gf 10 yrs ago, anything less will keep me regretful. 80% of the population is obese, just for a start. I estimate I like 0.1%.


A word of caution: sometimes the best wife is not the perfect girlfriend.. Hope you find yours..


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