My general gripe with results like this is that it seems to be interpreted in a biased way by the people that already use psychoactive drugs, who want to argue for them in the modern world.
I do agree that drugs were often needed for people to ensure the hardships of civilization (alcohol is not just a disinfectant). My main problem though is that this is too often used as an argument to shove a bunch of drugs in the general population, when we maybe could achieve some better results by just improving society.
The people that take psylocibin/mescalin/whatever always tell other how much it expanded their mind, yet often they seem just as narrow minded to me as they did before, just in a different way
The people that keep arguing for TUIs for everything seem like religious fundamentalists that can't be convinced with any argument that user interfaces should be about the user, and need to adapt to the task at hand.
Every time I use Claude Code, I'm wondering why the hell I'm regressing to the level of a machine. I paste an image that I want fixed, and I don't see the preview of it. I can't cut or edit text somewhere in the middle of a long sentence like in a normal user interface. I can't visualize any helpful graphics, not even Latex. I'm forced to interface like a machine when I'm a human being.
Why can't developers understanding that GUIs and TUIs both have their usage, it just depends on the task?
I'm fine to use vim over ssh into a server, just don't force me to edit fine typography with it.
> The people that keep arguing for TUIs for everything seem like religious fundamentalists that can't be convinced with any argument that user interfaces should be about the user, and need to adapt to the task at hand.
We are users.
> Why can't developers understanding that GUIs and TUIs both have their usage, it just depends on the task?
Isn't that the case for most TUI apps? They tend to serve quite specific purposes. Nobody writes a WYSIWYG word processor in a TUI. Because you can't and even if you could somehow with sixels it would work horribly bad.
In a dual role, I would say that the most impactful aspect (being a developer) matters more.
> Nobody writes a WYSIWYG word processor in a TUI.
But at the same time people write all sorts of other apps that could hugely benefit from a GUI. I seems like if the output itself is not graphical, TUI-enthusiasts won't acknowledge the advantages of a GUI layer, while only bringing in arguments why they can implemented poorly.
GUIs have a much higher surface to be done wrong, so standards are higher. But there's still a decision that needs to be weighed carefully, and many developers seems to simply jump on the TUI bandwagon just because it's easier.
I don't think a TUI is easier tbh. It's certainly more economical on resources, that's for sure. Really amazing programs running in 35k or so, compared to hundreds of MB for a whole electron stack. The more decent platform native and Qt apps are nicely in the middle but they are kinda becoming extinct. Even Microsoft is just serving us electron slop these days (though they call it something else)
But a TUI needs dedicated understanding of terminal toolkits. That's not easy. A GUI is much more easy mode with electron, a bit of javascript and a GUI toolkit to design the UI, easy peasy. To me the TUI is the hard option.
I really enjoy TUIs though. I wish there was something like vscode in TUI. I like the responsiveness and the no-nonsense. No logos and other commercial bullshit, no huge amounts of whitespace that UX designers consider "best practice", just highly dense data.
Also, I've worked with some of these designers and their holy best industry practices have nothing to do with anything that benefits the user. They're all like: "Is the logo clear enough", "Does the user get drawn to the parts that make us the most money (like ads or premium articles)", "Is the user finding the thing we want to promote".
To me all websites should look like Hacker News does. Not like a "modern" newspaper site does.
I honestly get better results out of claude at the command line than inside a GUI. Maybe I am just imagining things. But a lot of times GUIs are just graphical abstractions of TUIs. It is cruft that makes things visually easier and more appealing. That does not stop people from mastering TUIs and unlocking extra potential as they typically offer much deeper customization.
Once you go down this path, it is hard to go back. Very few tasks, apart from things like Photoshop and Revit, really require me to be at a GUI these days. And with MCP a lot of that is going away.
I have to agree with this. Ever since Claude Code released I always asked why it had to be a TUI but the sentiment I saw was that it was more powerful for some reason. I never bought that argument.
Now I use Codex UI which is miles better than any other tool I used.
I had the same feeling. I've since been using Claude Desktop and I have the convenience of the UI with Claude Code built right in. It even supports the same commands.
I have mixed feelings in this debate, too. The big issue with GUIs is that they’ve become so bloated, especially as the default framework is now often electron apps. Web based frameworks tend to start keeling when large amounts of data need to be handled in the DOM, etc. When I use slack and discord, I sigh when I start seeing UI rendering lag when I switch channels and projects.
Though there’s been some recent progress in alternative models, the fact is native frameworks have some catching up to do. Some in particular (SwiftUI) are downright awful
I'm sorry, but this is like saying "online sex is real sex". I'm sure some people can get the same stimulation, but it very much isn't the same.
Humans need other humans, in flesh and blood in front of them. Bonding needs a physical presence. That's the only way our social processes have evolved.
Given the sociability crisis and how having online friends can still have benefits, it's fine to paint them as something good, but they shouldn't be mistaken for the real thing, and this sort of ideas hide away our unnatural modern lifestyle.
Maybe I'm projecting a preference for something that humans have always done. But are you sure you're not trying to normalize your own unnatural preference?
I made a Gmail account in 2004. I'm still periodically asked for my birthday, just so Google knows I'm over 18. The stated purpose is almost always an excuse for more data.
The people choosing these banknotes put their office buildings on the money. They also seemed to have a gender quota, and have put on the 200 euro someone who is unknown to most Europeans (Marie Curie and Maria Callas were popular on the other hand).
Honestly, I enjoy plenty of benefits from the EU, but this non-representative style of decision-making makes me understand the EU-haters.
I have a feeling that being transgressive is universal, but the form of expression is cultural, with independent convergence to some common patterns.
For instance, in Romania I've noticed that the slang term for penis is written far more frequently than a crude drawing of it. I've also seen probably more drawn breasts than dicks as well.
>I have a feeling that being transgressive is universal
It certainly must be, no? Why would we have to culturally encode taboos and legally enforce particular behavior if not for a persistant presence of transgressive behavior?
No one would have sat down to write: "Any person may possess any number of live frogs to use in frog-jumping contests, but if such a frog dies or is killed, it must be destroyed as soon as possible, and may not be eaten or otherwise used for any purpose." (CA Fish & Game Code § 6883) unless there were in fact people eating their war-frogs AND people who believed that said war-frogs deserved proper funeral rites.
I'm sure all those stackexchange experts will be getting their checks for helping launch countless software projects over the last 20 years any day now...
You're basically saying that since open source projects can be reused by others, the people making closed source projects shouldn't complain when the same thing happens to them.
Everyone posting on Stack Overflow knew it would be public and free. Book authors put an explicit copyright notice, which includes derivations of their work.
Romanian here. There really were admin accounts with the password Passw0rd, created so that some incompetent political apointees could browse the data.
How is this not gambling? I mean, any mobster bookie could simply claim prediction market in this case, and simply take a cut. Where is the line drawn? On how much money the organizers give to the Trump family?
I do agree that drugs were often needed for people to ensure the hardships of civilization (alcohol is not just a disinfectant). My main problem though is that this is too often used as an argument to shove a bunch of drugs in the general population, when we maybe could achieve some better results by just improving society.
The people that take psylocibin/mescalin/whatever always tell other how much it expanded their mind, yet often they seem just as narrow minded to me as they did before, just in a different way
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