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Isn't it the case that it's not a CQ unless someone responds?

Like, the response is kind of important for either a CQ or a net... whereas if I broadcast a pirate radio I am doing what I am trying to do just by sending.


yes I think two-way vs one-way communication is a good characterization

I am not a capitalist, but isn't that the kind of problem that capitalism would solve?

Wouldn't the landlords would just take a loss and sell the property to avoid penalties?


If there is no business model and no one wants to pay, what then? We'd have a lot of vacant properties that would need to be renovated by the city. We see this in lots of places in Germany already, where there simply aren't buyers (because of demographics, primarily). Further, if you devalue properties with such a law, then you'd have a credit/dept property - landlords couldn't pay their dept, if property prices devalue by state law. Lastly, no one would build properties anymore under such a law.

.. Cities also rely quite a bit on property and real estate transfer taxes. By reducing property values, cities destroy their own tax base while needing lots of additional money to renovate state-acquired, vacant properties.


Cool, in what world is that a credible threat?

I love this, what a pleasant take./

I dislike AI because it represents the state's power to automatically surveil mass populations and automate everything from labor it's use of force in warfare.

Please, do go on about how the folks who find the aesthetic around that repugnant in a way that hand-drawn-chalkboards are the "real threat".


Hey now, these folks are -really enjoying- their highly contrived version of the events. How dare you limit their enjoyment by recontextualizing this into what most of my non-highly-online friends would view as the "normal" understanding.

As a person who went through and eventuall rejected the culture-jamming adbusters thoughts in the early 2000s, it's really hard for me to view a threat to share an ad as anything other than a "threat" to increase the "organic reach of the ad" or whatever "metric" that folks here would use.


I live near Durango, CO and this happened last week.

I remember walking over a hill into a rave in the Utah desert that we'd set up and thinking that it actually was the cyberpunk dystopia that I had been hoping for.

That kind of stuff is around but maybe not evenly distributed or legible to large demographics.

Unfortunately, so is the rest of the vicious horrorshow, equally illegible and equally uneven in distribution.


Interesting that you frame it as "hoping" for a dystopia. Like even in our wildest imaginations we can't envision a future where society works for regular folks.

I'm sympathetic to the problem that folks like Mark Fisher have laid out, in which (to paraphrase) "it is easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism", and that indeed might be one way to understand my feeling.

I take your point; it makes sense.

"Regular folks" is doing a lot of work, though.

It may very well be the case that most of the material world which props up the idea of "regular folks" never was capital-R Real and insofar as the idea is a pleasant dream it is not a sustainable one.

Proximate to me, often "regular folks" entail white folks unproblematically living their lives around the norms of US hegemonic capital interests. When I hear Pat the Bunny sing "show me utopia, I will call it a jail" I understand the feeling. I was, afterall, raised by Christians who believed in David Byrne's picture of "Heaven" as a place where "nothing ever happens".

Those are the folks who have happily elected a few people to replace the Flock cameras here with Axon. Their vision of an ordered society is a bit chilling to me, despite the fact that they understand their project as both liberal and progressive.

As I understand it, deviations from those cultural norms are already "dystopic" to the "regular folks" I know- if we somehow lost our ability to transmute sand into computing power and dead plants into motive power and had to go back to living in the cliff side then we'd no longer really be human, despite the fact that their enchanted sand and holy oil is literally destroying the ecology of the entire planet.

This situation is, of course, already a distopia for the bands of Ute and Jicarilla Apache and Dine and Hopi and others living near me. And when I look at the kinds of technological survellience built into the material structures it feels easy enough to note that we already live in a dystopia. I have heard some specific dakota folks refer this situation to as post-apocalyptic and I am inclined to agree.

If we accept that we're already in a dystopia and, further, that much of the hegemonic culture's idea of a "utopia" has already been a holocaust for several other groups of people, then hoping for a "dystopia" in that sense might seem a bit more coherent.


Damn, calling out Mark Fisher and Pat the Bunny? I think we are immersed in a lot of the same cultural and intellectual movements.

I love that "over-medicate" language (really). I will add that to my list of "things that are classy when rich people do them".

I always forget how geeked out these folks probably are and so I appreciate the reminder here.

About two days a month of my time is spent handing out bubbles and points to folks to get them to better manage their habits (in addition to other street medicine stuff). Stimulant culture is very foreign to my own chemistry, but yeah, the idea that most of these folks are just gakd up all the time certainly lines up with my experiences debraiding hobo feet.

I'm similarly not personally familiar with ketamine, but i've been doing first aid at festivals this year and understanding that most of the folks running the stuff in the US are on some spectrum of chemical impairment has been very helpful.

I don't miss drinking, but it was helpful in understanding the mindset at least.

If folks are interested in an ivy league business education but can't afford the tuition and life changes, I suggest that they can learn much of what it's like to be around a bunch of folks with poor impulse control and who are on a bunch of stimulants by volunteering with their local street medic group. The aesthetics are different but the general decision making processes seem very similar to me.


It's just the way we wash the language when talking about the ultra wealthy.

If you are poor and mentally ill, you are crazy, if you are rich you are eccentric.

If you are poor and a felon you can't vote, if you are rich and a felon you can win the presidency.

It very much is a two tier system and guess what, statistically if you are reading this you aren't in that fortunate tier.

From the eyes of a Musk or an Altman none of us matter and there isn't much difference between us and someone on the street using drugs.


It took me quite a while to "get" the "Arby's" restaurant name.

So on reading this comment I was like, "oh, I see, Arby's, like RB, roast beef?" Except on looking it up, that's not the explanation! "Arby's" does come from the initials "RB"... but it doesn't stand for "roast beef", it stands for "Raffel brothers"! Rather less obvious.

Tangential, but I have no idea who is eating at Arby’s. The food looks positively vile from the advertisements.

They sell a fast food priced sandwich that is a pound of deli meat and a glob of cheese sauce. It's meat and cheese.

How is anyone ever confused by this? Are you confused people eat taco bell? Are you confused by a cheese steak sandwich?


Taco Bell at least looks appetizing in their commercials. Arby's doesn't. It looks weird and gross.

It used to be pretty good. Same as most fast food.

No. It wasn’t ever good. Tried it in the early eighties. It was barely dog food back then too.

Do you not like your dogs or something? I wouldn't give Arby's to someone I hated.

Never having eaten there, I thought to myself, it can't be that bad. Then I went to their website and looked at it.

Good lord.


The food is pretty vile. Friends that worked their described the "beef" as being a weird loaf of pressurized mewt-like protein before its sliced.

I used to eat there occasionally because it was cheapish many, many years ago.


>Friends that worked their described the "beef" as being a weird loaf of pressurized mewt-like protein before its sliced

It's just deli meat. Arby's is extremely open that their roast beef is deli meat roast beef. It's no different from what you find at the deli counter in your local krogers.

Have you or your friend never seen deli meat before?


Yes, I have seen deli meat. The friend that told me about arby's loaf has also worked in delis.

Have you never seen a company lie about something?


Not me, but I've been thinking about it a bit lately, and what I believe is this:

the idea that we can have something that so deeply ingrained into my practice as a human just kind of tossed out there easily as if it's no thing at all,

with no real cultural context, no material situation in history, no connection to a place or a time, denuded of anything that would make mark it as art of a time or place, or even of a specific individual person much less of some localized scene, work created without any specific need being filled to be immediately and unconsciously forgotten.

In my life I have come to understand that almost all the things I -like- about music and my practices of it might seem so marginal to the work-in-itself as to be inconsequential:

this band played this song on this day this way because this person heard that guy play it, and then they played it in these clubs for a while, and it was recorded and someone over there liked it and that's why "Mighty Might Bosstones".

Like, for instance,

remembering the Slim Richey chainsaw statue in the Starlight bar in Terrlingua and recalling how he replaced Karen Abrahams in the Jitterbug Vipers and wishing that I'd gone and played that gig for $30 in Austin with her and Richie Bowden when I could have, and then thinking how I'll never get to play with Augie Myer or Jon Inmon either and then understanding that the JV are why Dr Sick of the some dumb throwback band brings coked up New Orleans musicians to a last-Sunday concert at the Kerrville Folk Festival, and knowing that the fact I have played on that stage and stage managed both those bands sutures me into a history and a community far larger that I can fully understand much less put into something intelligible to other folks who haven't stood with a giant family tree of musicians on stages smaller than drum risers.

The idea that you can make "music" totally a-historically, ex nihlo, and some folks would listen to it and not be able to taste the difference or even understand the weight of what they are saying when they say "this is that, this dumb shit is the same as what all yall do".

That's what I hate the most.

It's like they've invented zombies (in the 1932 film sense) and are proud of that instead of horrified, and I find it repulsive.

I sometimes wish I believed in god so I could say if this is the kind of disgust that believers feel when folks are casually sacrilegious.


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