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A functioning society

Gambling is legal where I live and society functions just fine.

> a large number of people are required to use those services for their job

Okay, but their job is a net drag on our society, so you haven’t quite convinced me.

Counterproposal: ban influencers


Counter-counterproposal, ban influencers without attempting to ban advertising triggering an immune response from a multi-hundred billion dollar a year industry.

The world would be a lot better off without this industry and the tracking it relies on.

> If you want to force Uber to take responsibility for the driver, the simplest thing is to get rid of the driver.

No. The easiest thing to do would be arbitrate against uber. Deploying a fleet of self driving cars would be much, much more complicated.


Wait, did I miss something? Wasn't that the point the entire time?

Restitution is an equitable remedy, not a legal basis.

> HN likes to abdicate YC of all wrong doing or negative outcomes

My take is that we like to hang out on PG's blog and make fun of his avarice. Is there a better place to do this?


Short answer, IRL.

Aside from "PG's blog" this is a community. People wish each other happy holidays, offer support to one another, challenge each other etc... In that sense it transcends both PG and YC. The internet is not what it used to be but HN is a real community to me and I am truly grateful for that. As such, I would like to make an effort to meet more people and hang out in real life.


Insurance kills this plan every time.

Not even close. For example insurance on my early 90s Mazda is $192. Insurance on my partner's three year old VW is almost $900. I could have a fleet of four older Mazdas and still be cheaper to insure.

I assume the difference here is that the newish VW is all-risk covered (theft, damage to own car, etc) while the Mazda is covered for liability only and that it would be possible to insure the newer car for liability only for about the same amount as you pay for the Mazda.

Technically it has comprehensive as well although it's a moot point. My deductible is $1000 and they'll just say the car is worth less than that, so they'll never pay anything.

I guess I should reduce it to liability only but it'll probably save me like $2, so haven't bothered.


Sure, but the Waymo is taking intrusive video of much more than the inside of the car. And unlike a mast-mounted camera, it can be sent almost anywhere at almost any time.

>Sure, but the Waymo is taking intrusive video of much more than the inside of the car.

The alternative is having a driver in the car, which is equally intrusive.


> The alternative is having a driver in the car, which is equally intrusive.

Would you rather have one random stranger see you naked, or have a video of you naked passed around to every cop in your city?

Unless you feel the same about those two scenarios, it seems like a driver and a camera are not equally intrusive.


>Would you rather have one random stranger see you naked, or have a video of you naked passed around to every cop in your city?

Half the ubers I've been now has a "you're being recorded" notice. Public transit is far worse.


You seem to have missed the point. A recording is one thing. A networked camera being ai-monitored in realtime is another.

Your uber driver is using the video to protect their in-app reputation (also dystopian, but unrelated), and in case a crime is committed against them or they are accused of one.

A networked ai monitored camera system is a panopticon. It will be (or already has been) turned against journalists, protesters, political opponents, ex girlfriends, union organizers, etc.


> If you have never actually _______, please just stop trying to confidently assert things about this subject.

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