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Lots of things were science fiction before they were science fact

Lots of things are science fiction and will always be.

It's a hybrid - the Apple Upgrade program (both the old and new ones) let you keep the phone and pay it off over time like zero percent financing but also give you the option of returning the phone and getting a new one.

To be fair that would be excellent marketing


And I'm sure these two goobers would call me a luddite for alleging that OpenAI had agency in allowing the terminator to get out and should therefore be held accountable. Is it some kind of mental block?


Is anyone arguing OpenAI is blameless or shouldn't be held accountable? I have seen not one person on any side of the debate argue that.

Obviously they were negligent. The problem is that people and organizations are consistently negligent around problems that are far, far easier to manage than "we have thousands of superintelligences trapped in a box and we're giving them impossible tasks."

So the question is whether we can build organizations and technologies that sufficiently manage this type of risk ahead of the capabilities. So far the answer seems to be veering towards "no", and you're here alleging it's all a marketing stunt.


That's a lot of words to say the same thing


It's not legally binding, but it is central to what the US is and has been. That's why they put the poem there, and that's why Americans welcomed the gift and erected the statue, and that's why it has been considered to be one of our most cherished symbols ever since.


You misunderstand - the government issued a directive to Anthropic that effectively forced them to pull access from everyone, even their own employees.


The directive was to remove access to non-Americans, not to pull access from everyone. It’s because Anthropic cannot verify the identity of its users that it pulled access from everyone, not because the government explicitely requested that.


Yes that's what "effectively" means.


If their operation team is not US based that's going to be difficult to operate. They would have to reorganize the whole company as I'm pretty sure that they are not employing only US citizen.


>I'm pretty sure that they are not employing only US citizen

Understatement. They have 14 offices, only 4 of them are in the US (6 are in EMEA, 4 in APAC).


> directive was to remove access to non-Americans

Did Hegseth pull his supply-chain risk BS?


No - this was a separate power unrelated to the supply chain risk which is still in effect.


Well, kinda in effect. He lacked the authority to make the call, and it is quite obviously being ignored by most suppliers. If it were actually enforced, I believe no companies that are contractors for the DoD could even host Anthropic- like GCP, Azure, and AWS. Perhaps they are currently figuring out how to get off all cloud provider govclouds, but I doubt it.


High income earners already subsidize the program. But more importantly, why would you target high income earners instead of targeting the wealthy?


Does a pocket calculator not understand arithmetic? What part of a fourth grader's understanding is missing?


Not sure what you mean.

I'm happy both ways:

Either you say that a pocket calculator understands arithmetic, and that LLM understand language, which is something trivial. If a pocket calculator understands arithmetic, than previous substitutes to calculators, such as an abacus, do too. In this case, a word dictionary also understand language. And it is basically what Chiang's article says: the LLM don't understand language more than a word dictionary does. If you disagree with Chiang, it looks like you do only because you don't understand what he is saying, or somehow are not mature enough to realise that Chiang may use a different definition of "understanding" than yours in a fully legitimate way, like everyone is always doing when talking about plenty of subject.

Or you pretend that a pocket calculator understanding of arithmetic is somehow different than the one of an abacus or other obviously inanimate object who are obviously not thinking.


If Windows isn't the gold standard having 70% of the market, then what is? Azure is in second place not by far after AWS. And these are huge, HUGE markets. I wouldn't say your local grocer is dead because it's not Costco, and of course by this logic Costco is itself dead because it's not Walmart.


Maybe we are jumping the gun on Windows. My echo chamber is tech people and they seemed to have lost faith in windows after they Windows 11 introduced ads and plugged every hole that allowed to bypass needing a Microsoft account. Gaming and anti-cheat not working on Linux will keep that market share high for a while.


My elderly uncle is completely addicted to these. We can barely complete a conversation without him getting bored and pulling out his phone to watch these nonsense videos. I don't even understand what the point is. The ones he watches are these clearly procedurally generated stories. It'd be one thing if the content was actually interesting, but ugh.


Now I am super curious, I really need to see an example of one of these videos!


Here's a representative example that my father in law (in his 70s) shared with me the other day: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=puRg-4ZvNYs


somebody in the comments mentioned this is a point where the AI glitched out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puRg-4ZvNYs&t=150


That's hilarious. Reminded me of the scene at spaceport security in the original Total Recall where Arnie's AI loses the plot.


someone had nine-sixty dollars drained from their bank account. seems legit.


She just wants your attention. https://youtube.com/shorts/27VqkuNndOY


Fascinating broken-bot glitch, thank you. Reminds me of some sci-fi movies.


Oh, that's exactly the kind of video I was talking about.


4.2K likes.

Maybe I should be generating generic AI made videos. LOL.


Crazy. On mobile it’s relatively easy to grab the playhead and scrub back and forth quickly over the full length of the video — this shows how the face movements are totally repetitive and constrained to a very limited space and variety.


"and nine sixty dollars is gone"

This isn't even well done. I also opened it in a private browsing window, and the ad I was served was the most obviously AI-generated slop hawking some kind of health drink...that was clearly just a badly generated bottle of apple cider vinegar (text on the bottle was all mangled but it's exactly the kind my grocery store sells), and the "doctor" speaking barely synced up with his voice. Do people falling for these just have no sense of the uncanny valley?


These are crazy (and scary)


I hate that I opened that in my main account, it's weird AF. Goes off to edit YT history to hope that click didn't affect my alg.


Absolutely regret just doing the same thing.


This is genuinely disturbing. I’m speechless.


The man ran into the woman. [Young adult Far East man runs into young adult Far East woman.] The woman said sorry, I am such a clutz. The man said, that’s okay. The man fell in love with the woman. The man dated the woman for many weeks. The man met the woman’s father [Tekken grandpa]. The man did not recognize the father. The man and the woman got married. Turns out that the father was actually the owner of the company where the man worked and the daughter was the heiress. The man and the woman went out for dinner.


Hang out with some 5-10 year olds and give them control of YouTube, they'll show you within 2 minutes


Or this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hyw04fT4vtM

Skip ahead a minute or two - the narrator is a bit dull


these videos are as close as we can get to plant electrodes directly in your brain's reward center, and repeatedly pressing the "reward" button. obviously not everyone is the same, but if it hits it hits hard.


There are so many of these stories… it makes me wonder if humans in general have “general intelligence” either.

Or whether it’s only a small subset who do.


What people do is not well correlated with what they know. You can't reduce people to their behavior. You can reduce machines to their behavior.

If you disagree, I would strongly suggest you review where else you might be making this incorrect assumption.


You can't reduce people to their behavior ...

As a first approximation, why not? Behavior is generally all we have in front of us, plus any other assorted social signals. Internal mental states are invisible, as is the personal history of the individual. We might note a man beating a kitten on the sidewalk, and believe this behavior sufficient grounds to reduce this person to the category "dick", even if we remained unaware of his high intelligence, his doctoral paper on gender-inequality, and the fact his mother hates him.


If you don’t assess people based on their actions… then how do you assess them?

From my experience actions are easily worth thousands of times more than any other criteria.


Attaboy you're on the right track! We're almost in agreement. I'm saying that you cannot accurately assess people at all! All you can do is guess.

But when we assess a machine, we do know everything about it based on its actions.


> But when we assess a machine, we do know everything about it based on its actions.

This is obviously false. Every developer has had hour-long debugging sessions to track down a mysterious behavior. Sometimes entire teams are stumped by a technical glitch. Until the bug is found, nobody knows everything about the machine.


Yet the bug has a chance of eventually being discovered. If someone is determined to find it, they certainly will. You are not thinking clearly here.


This comment doesnt make sense.

How is it relevant to my question, whether you think someone else agrees with you… or not?

I just don’t see a reason for anyone to give you higher credibility than other HN users.


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