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The main issue is the (sometimes) hard signup wall. I've been a moderator on HN for longer than 404media has existed, and I know from experience that this changes from time to time or article to article. Other paywalled sites that appear on HN (WSJ, NYT etc) have a porous paywall; you can (almost) always get around it by using an archive site like Archive.today.

If it's a good article (contains significant new information and can be a topic of curious conversation) and a paywall workaround works for that article, we'll happily allow it.



If they do their own, original, investigative reporting, you may want to be a bit more permissive.


Since HN doesn't really facilitate any workarounds anyway and we've been doing manual archive links and content reposting as needed in other cases... I suspect we can handle 404 as well as a community.


Even porous paywalls can have a marked effect on story performance on HN.

The New York Times tightened its paywall markedly in August 2019, with a net effect that appearances in the top-30 stories on HN's front-page archive (the "Past" links in the site header) fell to ~25% of their previous level.

I'd asked dang at the time if HN had changed any of its own processes at the time. Apparently not.

I suspect then that this reflects frustrations and/or inability to access posted articles behind the paywall.

See: <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36918251> (July 2023)




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