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Sure, sure. So now we have the worst of all possible worlds: an expensive interview process where the candidate has to be onsite, and a stupid evaluation mechanism that doesn't at all reflect real-world job requirements. And in exchange for the inconvenience of an in-person interview, the candidate gets treated like a number and is met with a stupid memorization gauntlet that tests a skill that quite literally will never be used again now that we have AI. Sounds great.

Man, there are times when I really hate this industry.



The only job application process I've ever walked out on in the middle of was 25 years ago, when I was taking a proctored computer skills test and it dinged me for pressing the Windows key rather than moving the cursor to the Start button and clicking it.

So this is a new presentation of an old problem, I guess is the takeaway there.


> an expensive interview process where the candidate has to be onsite

I'm sorry, but if I'm doing the hiring, the person who isn't willing to come on site to do an interview will be one of the first people off the list to hire (I mean, unless it is a remote job, and the person is nowhere near the employer, obvious exceptions would apply).

In-person interviewing can be extremely valuable. Will it filter out every bad candidate? No, some people excel at faking it. However it can be a big help in finding a good candidate.


> I'm sorry, but if I'm doing the hiring, the person who isn't willing to come on site to do an interview will be one of the first people off the list to hire

Nobody said anything about not coming on site. That's how we used to do it, in the ancient pre-history of 2019. What I said was that if you bring someone on site only to leetcode them, you deserve not to hire anyone.

The downside, of course, is that you don't have the cheap, dumb pre-filter of a memorization test anymore, so you'll have to figure out a better way to winnow down the applicant pool whom you're willing to pay to bring on site.

Maybe finally software engineering will achieve a level of interview maturity seen in other professional fields...but I doubt it.


If you're willing to travel to be on site, you should be willing to study for the leetcode test.


So if it’s just a shit-test to see if the applicant has enough grit to grind through an arbitrary filter, and not to measure their aptitude, why not use Minecraft or something? Come into our office and show us how long it takes you to kill the End Dragon.


Factorio is a much better test of your design and programming and refectoring ability than Minecraft.


Just fly everyone out in a group and have a big rock-paper-scissors tournament. You can save on airfare.


> Man, there are times when I really hate this industry.

Or as I'd like to call it - Wednesday :)




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